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Post by Coach on May 2, 2004 19:05:27 GMT
Thank you Lee, my point exactly. I think that Faustino is just afraid of getting turned over by reserve sides!
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Post by Coach on May 2, 2004 19:43:35 GMT
Sorry, forgot, Stur Marshall won't be in the DPL.
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Post by Coach on May 2, 2004 19:48:43 GMT
Anyway Faustino, Corfe Mullen may not be any worse than Cobham or Stourpaine, but look at their seasons, not nice getting beat every week, with the exception of a draw or two! Is it?
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Post by Faustino on May 3, 2004 18:38:00 GMT
I think thats a bit harsh. You probably know that we get beat by most teams reserve or not thats not my problem. I just think that the top league of any county should have a as many senior teams as possible
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Post by leeatkins2 on May 11, 2004 20:42:29 GMT
I totally agree tino, but if the DPL is, and more than likely will be having virtually the same teams in every season ( except the relegated and promoted few), then the DPL may as well be called the SPL.
How boring is that, playing the same teams, seeing the same faces (no insult intended to n e 1) week in week out, season in, season out.
Going over to a different county is anew challenge againt new/different players/managers, seeing different grounds etc.
I am all for progresion, wether it be Reserve teams in the DPL or not.
UP THE BORO`
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Post by Coach on May 12, 2004 13:11:38 GMT
Well said again Lee. Faustino, you've just agreed with my argument, as many first teams as POSSIBLE! But there are not enough, so reserves will need to be let in. Just remember, we're not talking more than half the league being reserves, we're talking 3 or 4, 5 at worst scenario.
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Post by Faustino on May 12, 2004 15:40:25 GMT
Ok you have won me over. I suppose the most important thing is the standard and facilities. I know that for every player in DPL the highligh of the season is away to Dorchester Reserves so that sums it all up really
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Post by Coach on May 14, 2004 7:23:16 GMT
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Post by Solvaman on May 17, 2004 10:56:21 GMT
Any news on your promotion yet Mr Haggarty. Any news at all whether they'll be a DPL next season!
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Post by CranesGaffer on May 17, 2004 12:10:56 GMT
We have received permission from the Cranborne Estate (Lord Salisbury) and from Cranborne Sports to carry out the work necessary for entry into the DPL. Representatives of Cranborne FC and DPL are meeting this evening to go through everything. Fingers crossed we should know for definite tonight what is happening.
As I understand it, both Cranborne and Swanage will play in the DPL next season.
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Post by Solvaman on May 17, 2004 18:49:54 GMT
Oh could you let us know the full constitution when you know it?
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Post by CranesGaffer on May 18, 2004 8:11:37 GMT
Our meeting went well last night and we were formally accepted into the DPL for next season.
Swanage were also having a meeting with DPL last night but I'm not aware of the outcome.
As soon as I know the constitution I'll post it. I get the impression there won't be too many changes from the current DPL.
I understand DCFA have their meeting tonight to decide on their constitution for next season. Hopefully that will shed some more light on who will be in the DPL next season.
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Post by Solvaman on May 18, 2004 10:42:54 GMT
Three cheers for Cranborne Well done Good to see a new club in there.
Lets us know when you find out the DPL line up
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Post by Solvaman on Jun 2, 2004 8:22:42 GMT
I believe Poole Borough's site has the full DPL constitution for next season if anyones interested and for DD2
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Post by Local football fan on Jul 19, 2004 14:28:34 GMT
You can't have reserve teams in a competitive league that is worth anything. You don't see Manchester United, Chelsea reserves etc. trying to get themselves into division 1,2,3. As pointed out before, this situation seems to be unique to Dorset, also the DPL is one of the weakest top county leagues around. Not saying that these two things are related.
I think that the argument with allowing reserve teams in to keep the leagues standard up is a last ditched short term effort to try and prevent the DPL from turning into a farce. The gulf in quality of teams leaving the DPL compared to those comming in is huge. I feel now that more local players who are any good, who in the past may have been looking to play in the DPL, will now be turning their attention towards the Wessex league football. This even more so with the formation of Wessex 2. Things don't look good for the future of the DPL.
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Post by CranesGaffer on Jul 20, 2004 8:28:25 GMT
The gulf in quality of teams leaving the DPL compared to those comming in is huge. I agree with quite a lot of what you say, but the gulf in quality you mention I find hard to accept. Without doubt Hamworthy Utd and Dorchester Town Res were the top sides last season. Of the two clubs who have left the DPL, the Hammers and Shaftesbury; no doubt about it, Hamworthy are top quality. I'm sure Steve Norman would admit that Shaftesbury were far from being a top quality side last season. It just seems a bit of a slate on Cranborne and Swanage your comment. I would be interested to know how many times you have been to watch the Cranes and the Swans to make such a judgement? I know Swanage lost their boss from last season so I cannot comment whether there will be much of a change in playing personnel there, but they were a good football team last season. We at Cranborne have quietly been adding to our squad and I expect us to be even stronger in the coming season. We might not be a Hamworthy United, but I'm sure we will do well. I have to agree though that if the teams that hoped to jump ship this season do so next year (Holt, Sherborne, Gillingham, Poole Borough etc) the DPL would be in severe trouble. In the meantime, we at Cranborne are very happy to be in the DPL and we hope to add to it's entertainment value rather than detract from it. As they say, time will tell.........
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Post by Gavin on Jul 20, 2004 16:46:33 GMT
I agree on some points but to say that players will now want to plain in wessex two instead is a joke I know lots of players who dont want to play in wessex to because the standard is poor and because of midweek trips nearer london than Poole. If anything this might encourage some DPL clubs to sort themselves out because theirs is a big oppourtunity for some of the 'lesser' clubs to really establish themselves also theirs a lot of quality players who for various reasons dont want to play in Wessex two who are looking for DPL clubs this will be the case even more next season If I was a manger of a DPL club I'll be excited because its a real oppourtunity
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Post by Local football fan on Jul 20, 2004 18:29:10 GMT
Yeah OK maybe saying that the gulf between teams leaving and teams entering was a bit harsh as I have to admit I have not seen many Shaftesbury games or infact any Cranes games. I have however watched a lot of Hamworthy and Swanage games and the comments were largely based on this.
As mentioned though, what happens when the likes of Holt, Sherbourne, Gillingham, and Poole Borough get to where they are trying to get. I am not convinced that the quality comming up is going to be anything like what is leaving. The reason I say this is that as someone who used to play, and someone who has lots of friends who still do (mostly in DPL and Wessex), I find that most players want to play at the highest standard they can, against the best players they can, and on the best surfaces they can (this is the competitive nature of most footballers). From my observations it seems that the level of player that would be looking to have played for a club competing the DPL five years ago (or combination or whatever it was) can now get first team games in Wessex league sides with the chance to play with and against players who played at a very high standard, on a better surface. DPL does not attract many ex pros or youngsters released from pro teams. I feel that with the formation of Wessex 2 this will be the case even more as it is obviously a gateway to Wessex 1 (would Gary Funnel of signed for Poole Town if they were still in Hampshire Prem?).
It seems to me that the way things are going, the Wessex league is going to replace the DPL as the county's top league (I know its not a Dorset league), in the sense that the top local teams and players will want to play there. I may be wrong, but it does look as though that is what the Wessex League is trying to do. I would not be surprised if in 5 years time we have even more divisions in the Wessex league populated with clubs that would have otherwise played in DPL.
That said I am all for DPL being the prestige local football league. As a follower of Hamworthy United, Poole Borough, and Poole Town, no-one is more sorry than me for them to be playing their away games nearer London than Poole. It just seems to me that with things like reserve teams being allowed in and ground standards being relaxed, the league is not really heading in the right direction, which it needs to do fast before the Wessex league steals more local teams. The future strength of the DPL lies with the up and comming youngsters. Where will they be attracted to, Wessex or DPL. Maybe DPL needs more clubs with youth setups I don't know. Would be interested to know what people think on this.
P.S. Hope to see the Cranes fowards in action turning Clarkey inside out over the moor this season.
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Post by CranesGaffer on Jul 22, 2004 11:25:07 GMT
P.S. Hope to see the Cranes fowards in action turning Clarkey inside out over the moor this season. We're looking forward to our trip to Turlin Moor for our DPL opener. It will be a big day for my lads as this is something they have worked so very hard for, to be able to line up against teams the likes of Poole Borough. Hopefully we will perform well on the day and give a good account of ourselves. Once you've watched us I would be interested to hear your opinion on the Cranes. We'll see what we can do regarding Clarkey
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Post by The Spectator on Aug 4, 2004 7:20:03 GMT
Can the Cranes gaffer shed any light on the rumour that he has signed some of his players on micky mouse contracts I do hope this is incorrect other clubs have tried this in the past in the short term you may feel the club has secured the security of some of its players but the reality is a player will only play for the club if he wants to If a bigger club comes in for one of of those players and makes a decent offer then the trouble will start the club will almost certainly lose all creditability
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