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Post by Local Fan on Jul 22, 2006 22:53:28 GMT
I was disappointed to see that both Wimborne and Poole Town elected not to join the Dorset Reserve League. I believe both clubs have moved to the Wessex Combination.
When requested, DCFA put both clubs straight into their top league, and especially on PTFC's case they did not exactly set the league alight. Given the chance to support the DCFA's objectives, both clubs appear to have turned their backs on the initiative. I feel this is a missed opportunity.
Having two Wessex Premier sides represented would have possibly lead to sides like Poppies and Christchurch considering joining the league. Instead they have decided to take on the burden of the Hampshire/IOW slog which Wimborne have already experienced is just not financially viable.
When these clubs look for a solution, let us hope they remember the opportunity they turned down. Both clubs appeared happy to play in the DSL with nearly 50% of the teams being 'reserves' and a local Dorset based reserve league has got to be the solution for a cost effective way of running an effective second string, now the DPL seem reticent to allow more reserve teams to join their competition.
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Post by Be Fair on Jul 23, 2006 12:11:13 GMT
You've got to see it from their point of view though. The new league looks quite poor and they need to bring through players to play in the Wessex Premier. They really need to be playing against better teams week in week out. Just look at the difference in quality between Wessex Combination 1 and the new DCFA reserve league, it looks huge on paper. Even if Poppies and Christchurch did bring their reserves over, thats only two teams, the average standard would still be poor. How do you see the standard improving?
Poole and Wimborne are Wessex teams now. Travelling may not be ideal, but thats what happens if you want to progress. And lets face it, Wessex is a better organsied more professional setup anyway.
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Post by sorry but true on Aug 3, 2006 22:40:15 GMT
and the wessex leagues really great anyway, i see players every week in the lower leagues of both dorset and bmth who could easily play in this self proclaimed top league .get real its for ponces who fancy themselfs as great players that in truth arnt going anywhere especially premier league or la liga where they think they are
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Post by Be Fair on Aug 4, 2006 7:57:46 GMT
sorry but true
What do you mean 'get real' you tit. It means f*ck all what YOU think of the Wessex League. Fact of the matter is that it IS Stage 9 in the football league system while the DPL IS stage 11. These are facts and not really open to interpretation. I'm sure even you realise if a club wants to progress, it has to move through these levels.
Wessex Prem IS a better standard than the DPL, seeing players in the lower leagues of Bournemouth and Dorset doesn't really have anything to do with anything that has been said in this thread, but as you mentioned it I'll take you up. To get started please answer the question below.
Which teams in the LOWER Dorset and Bournemouth leagues contain players capable of playing Wessex Premier (I'm not suggesting there aren't any by the way)?
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Post by King on Aug 4, 2006 8:06:59 GMT
Damm Right!!
I have played in the Wessex and DPL and the difference is substancial, however i do think you have more big time charlies in the wessex league, ie players that nearly made it but didnt! and they are a bit bitter and play with an arrogance that isnt really justified!! if they got there head down and worked harder they really would be good solid players!,
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Post by Be Fair on Aug 4, 2006 9:36:57 GMT
Yep! I think if you speak to anyone with any sense who has actually played in both they will say the same as you about the standard, and the big time Charlies. I suppose it's like the lowest level for players who have been bombed from pro clubs, so yes, that does seem to make them bitter. I don't think it's as common in the Ryman as it is in the Wessex.
I watched shed loads of mates play football from Conf. South to Bournemouth and Dorset 1 a couple of seasons ago while out injured. To suggest the lower leagues are full of players capable of playing higher is just utter rubish. Sure there are a few, but generally speaking players find their standard.
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Post by sorry but true on Aug 4, 2006 16:03:09 GMT
i take it bt the bitter comments made by some of you , you must be some of those failed " charlies " that have been mentioned . king you made a good point if they werent so arrogant yes they probably wouldnt be bad players ,some of your comments were good and honest and yes i agree that it is a stsstically higher standrd on paper but as (players find there standard), wot a load of junk that is, we all know players in the lower depth sof dorset and bmth who are mustard and all know players that are in the " wessex ( la liga ) that are shocking. yes i agrre that if you want to progress you have to go down these channels but at present its full of bullshit politics and failed players and charlies and if you really think about it im spot on
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Post by Be Fair on Aug 7, 2006 11:52:41 GMT
It's not a load of junk, players *GENERALLY* do find thier standard. I'm sure you understand what 'generally' means in this context. There are some players that are playing below thier potential, but it is a *MINORITY* i.e. the lower leagues contain more players suited to the lower leagues than players suited to higher leagues. Don't assume we all know players who are 'mustard' playing in the lower leagues, I don't. And anyway, how can you tell if some one is mustard if they're playing in a junk league?
Don't make assumptions about who you are talking to when you have no idea. I'm not a 'failed charlie'. I've answered your post because it's a load of junk and generalisations, not because I play in the league.
How can you be spot on? all of your comments are generalisations which by definition cannot be 'spot on'. Give some examples if there are as many as you suggest.
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Post by GIVE SOME CREDIT on Aug 9, 2006 7:10:41 GMT
Why u saying the dpl is a junk league?? im quite pleased that im only 17 and playing week in week out!! and alot of youngsters are!! what motivation is that coming from an older head!?? i believe there are a few players good enough 4 wessex league football and while we are young we are still progressing as players!!! so before u go sitting on ur horse about the wessex league ave a think and give the dpl some credit!! evry1 has to start somewhere
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Post by Be Fair on Aug 9, 2006 11:16:19 GMT
Calm down mate. If your 17 and playing in the DPL your doing very well. It's all relative really. Conference players may consider the Wessex a junk league, Football league players may consider the Conference a junk league etc. etc.
If you really read the posts, you'll see that all I am doing is offering facts, I'm not 'sitting on my horse about the Wessex League' suggesting playing in the DPL is not an achievement, I'm just stating that Wessex Prem is a higher standard (it's 2 promotions from the DPL), and as such, on average, tends to contain better players.
As a player playing at this very respectable standard, I'm sure you can appreciate these facts. You're only 17, you could easily end up playing in a higher league as players don't stop improving at 17. If you're offered the chance to play Wessex would you take it? If you did would that make you a ponce or Charlie?....No
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Post by spot on jon on Aug 13, 2006 17:11:55 GMT
i hate to agree lads but as a regular of the wessex for 3 yrs i have to agree with sorry but true good point well made i feel
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Post by Be Fair on Aug 14, 2006 19:05:56 GMT
Good point well made. Are you serious? Which bits?
Where are all of these 'mustard' players in the lower leagues then? Not one example has been posted.
Who's made 'bitter' comments about anything exept for 'sorry but true'? I've simply pointed out that IN GENERAL the players in the Wessex Prem are better than the players in the lower Bournemouth and Dorset leagues, and the DPL for that, which is my opinion. King has said having played in DPL and Wessex that the standard of Wessex is better, but, is still full of Charlies. Who's being bitter there?
That's a good point well made is it? No, I don't think so. It's OPINION and it's been EXTREMELY BADLY made. By this I mean accusing people of being bitter who blatantly aren't and failing to give any examples of this all too common situation.
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Post by wizard on Sept 4, 2006 16:02:21 GMT
This is a a facinating debate.... My side Play in Dorset Div 1. We played several games against dpl sides in pre-season and frankly they were not all that. Likewise we hammered a dorset reserves league side. I have friends who play in the wessex leagues and having seen alot of games over the past few years would have to agree that there is a gulf. Whether the players are charlies or not doesnt disguise the fact that they are in fact pretty decent. If they were there purely for a jolly they would be out of most sides. Sure some dont take it as seriously as others but if your good enough it doesnt really matter... This is an unbiased point of view as i have only ever played dorset footy.....
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Post by Help on Sept 9, 2006 19:33:18 GMT
Can anyone tell me where I can get the Res League results. Ta
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Post by boro boy on Sept 9, 2006 19:43:11 GMT
second down from top of page county results.
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Post by Help on Sept 9, 2006 19:57:00 GMT
Thanks , which web site
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